they're still struggling, but there's a general feeling that obama backed the auto industry, therefore, cared about their cities and the republicans don't, and that may be how he wins ohio on that auto issue. >> jennifer granholm got it right, chris. >> what? what did she say? >> i said governor granholm got it right in her speech when she talked about the fact that what barack obama did for the auto industry wasn't just michigan, it was ohio, pennsylvania, virginia, north carolina, so many other states benefited where our manufacturers manufacture component parts. >> okay. great. that's so important. thank you, governor ed rendell, thank you doug brinkley. good luck with the book. coming up, you listen very carefully and the sound you hear is the republican gnashing of teeth. they think mitt romney is losing what they consider a winnable election. maybe it would help if romney would stop debating with himself about health care reform. does he want to get rid of it, keep it, keep some of it, have it paid for, not paid for?